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The Mess and A Just Society
  • SirNDPT October 2011 +1 -1
    Written some time ago... exploring why we are in such a mess and what we must do to get out of it.
  • OccupyYourMind October 2011 +1 -1
    We seem to have accepted the existence of a permanent underclass of tens of millions who cannot cope and must be carried by society -- fed, clothed, housed, tutored, medicated -- at taxpayer’s expense their entire lives. We have a dependent nation the size of Spain in our independent America. We have a new division in our country: those who pay a double or triple fare, and those who ride forever free.

    The majority of this country's wealthy did not inherit their fortunes. Rather, most created their own wealth, primarily through innovation - creating new businesses or products. Unlike most nations, ours is truly the land of equal opportunity, a place where rags-to-riches stories are common. No matter your race or education level, the highest levels of success are possible. Drive and determination are the two requisites. With them, anything is possible. Millions of Americans started with nothing yet became successful.

    Yet, instead of taking advantage of the vast opportunities in this country, there is a society of bottom feeders who choose to spend their energy whining about ways to leach more blood from society. Too many take advantage of government hand-outs, such as welfare, disability, and unemployment programs. We must make qualifying for these programs more restrictive so that funds exists to lend a *temporary* helping hand to the truly needy.

    I hope that the Occupy protesters, as they gather in person and online, are developing innovative ways to create more jobs, lower government spending, start new businesses, and reduce the dependency of the underclass. Find a need and create a product or business to fulfill that need. Bring back innovation. Stop complaining. Be in charge of your own success. The entitlement era must end and personal accountability must reign.

    I look forward with anticipation to hearing about the many great ideas for new businesses, new jobs, new products, new services, new inventions spawned by the Occupy think-tank. Hopefully the folks who have sufficient determination and free time to camp out for days and weeks will use their time productively (i.e., do more than just complain). Each day spent protesting is a day not spent working or looking for work. I truly hope these protests leave the nation with more than just the stench of urine, piles of litter, and huge clean-up bills.