Slogans/Memes/Quotes Sat, 06 Feb 16 11:17:29 -0700 Slogans/Memes/Quotes en-CA Occupy: 'A State of Mind' Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:47:32 -0700 iam_occupy 1356@/forum/discussions = for global unity
= minding the current state of affairs
= changing your mind
= changing our future

I'd rather refer to myself as a Change Agent than an Occupist.]]>
WE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE WANT BUT WE SURELY KNOW WHAT WE DON'T WANT! Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:59:20 -0700 XavierOT 1329@/forum/discussions
Some favorite quotes Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:25:18 -0600 gavemehope 654@/forum/discussions
To save man from the morass of propaganda, in my opinion, is one of the chief aims of education. Education must enable one to sift and weigh evidence, to discern the true from the false, the real from the unreal, and the facts from the fiction.
Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time: the need for man to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.

The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty

Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted.
If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live

Somehow this madness must cease. We must stop now. I speak as a child of God and brother to the suffering poor of Vietnam. I speak for those whose land is being laid waste, whose homes are being destroyed, whose culture is being subverted. I speak for the poor in America who are paying the double price of smashed hopes at home and death and corruption in Vietnam. I speak as a citizen of the world, for the world as it stands aghast at the path we have taken. I speak as an American to the leaders of my own nation. The great initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours.

Man is man because he is free to operate within the framework of his destiny. He is free to deliberate, to make decisions, and to choose between alternatives. He is distinguished from animals by his freedom to do evil or to do good and to walk the high road of beauty or tread the low road of ugly degeneracy

All from one of my most respected persons to ever share this planet with Dr Martin Luther King. He accomplished more than millions of bullets and bombs could without ever raising a hand in violence. Yet from a few quotes of his you can see his work is far from over. As I watch thousands upon thousands march peacefully around the world.
For many of the things he lived and died for, I can't help but think if alive to today he would be right in the middle of this marching with you, and through his work he is.

There was a memorial of his new statue in Dc today, and it was beautifully done. He deserves to stand there in Dc, carved in stone. The President made a great speech as he can, and I think he made some very good indirect mentions to what is going on in the streets everywhere. I think our President is a good man, but it really bothers me that on a day when so many protest are going on from these same things still, there was no direct mention. Do you think he would be focused on a statue of himself, or on his life's work he lived and died for that we all are still after? Don't get me wrong, the statue is great, and I wish to see it, and it is a great day. Its just I can't think of world wide peaceful marches without thinking of him, and his non violent victories. He worked for all of us.

I have come to the conclusion that POTUS was just not allowed to speak of the marches directly as he would like to. Which would mean it is worse than we thought. He ought to be able to speak about the same struggles, and abuses going on today directly. It wouldn't distract from him, it would honor him, more so than they did so well today. To me it seemed his work, was above all else.

I think the greater honor of his work today Cornel West protesting the corruption of the supreme court today, and getting arrested afterwards. He and all those who marched and went to jail in the struggle against, economic inequality, the ten years in Afghanistan, and equality of all kinds from the greed of the few. Whether you like him or not, or know enough about him to, you honored his life's work well. Read just a few quotes, and it's easy to see you are fighting the same old problems of over 50 years ago. It's well over due we fix it.

I haven't got many hits on this subject, but it's very important to me, and I have drawn inspiration from his story from the day I learned it, and believe we can learn much from looking back. Seeing the problems we face today. It doesn't seem so far away at all.]]>
1% We are not here to ASK, we are here to TAKE. Join us or flee! Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:56:51 -0600 Dran 489@/forum/discussions Acronym Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:23:08 -0700 betsy 1439@/forum/discussions
Quote American Patriots Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:42:52 -0700 AuthorBJLee 1412@/forum/discussions Give me liberty or give me death.
I have not yet begun to fight.
I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.
These are just quotes. They are already there.
Why do we fear them?
Just wondering.
If this is a peaceful movement why is the government using so much violence?
Author BJLee ]]>
No slogans yet? Well, I don't have many, but... Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:19:03 -0600 letsgo 224@/forum/discussions
- Not what they say, what we say! And we say: It's not Fair! Corporations as People--it's not fair! Banks too big to fail--it's not fair! Congress tied to money--it's not fair!

- Divide government from money! ACT NOW!
(Here's some practical political steps I'd like to see and am advocating:

-What are we gonna do? Undo the Fed! What are we gonna do? Vote out Congress! What are we gonna do? Fight for Glass-Steagall! What are we gonna do? Treat rich criminals like poor criminals! What are we gonna do? March!]]>
I do not consent to be governed by a bottom line. Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:52:20 -0600 skoalbite 848@/forum/discussions Trademark??? Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:21:19 -0600 janmarbol 1097@/forum/discussions
Everything is getting so out of hand and information is losing transparency on websites and videos.]]>
"No one can win when another is ruined." Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:09:43 -0600 skinny 1217@/forum/discussions]]> Right-wing politicians would rather reduce life on Earth than reduce corporate profits Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:36:28 -0600 SteveHeitmann 1117@/forum/discussions
These dysfunctional rwGOP politicians would rather reduce the margin of life on Earth than reduce the margin of corporate profit. Their entire political agenda promotes “liberty” and deregulation to rape the planet, eliminate American rights and protections, and devolve the American Democratic Republic, by and for the people, into a plutarchy, by and for the extremely wealthy and corporations--all for limitless irresponsibility, destructiveness, power, and unbridled, greedy profiteering, without consequences. Furthermore, the rwGOP ideological agenda includes eliminating any cost unrelated to corporate profiteering--such as women’s rights, education, and teachers; eliminating anything they glibly perceive as “socialism” or “big government”, such as the EPA, DOE, Social Security and Medicare; and, by assuring that American debt and deficit, including the trade deficit, just continues to push this country into a modern dark age.

I'm disgusted with these rwGOP louts, loons, clowns and con-artists. They have no place in elected office, although a few of them could be elected for prison terms. Vote the right-wing Republicans out of political existence.
"it's not a new party, it's a new paradigm" Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:10:27 -0600 IdenR 981@/forum/discussions
also a take-off on the Clinton phrase of "It's the economy, stupid" - "It's the paradigm, stupid"

I'm uncertain about using the "P" word cause it might turn some people off. There are synonyms like system, way to live, maybe more but I can't think of a simple word that begins with a "p" that means paradigm but doesn't sound pretentious.]]>
Great insight to the End of our Republic Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:55:55 -0600 YrTheyCorrupt 1008@/forum/discussions
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

"What luck for rulers that men do not think" Adolf Hitler

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it" Adolf Hitler]]>
99% + 1% = 100% We Are All In This Together Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:55:54 -0600 IdenR 995@/forum/discussions!/100AsOne?sk=wall which is about the same sentiment. We must embrace empathy for all beings and reach out to the 1% as well. That's the way it works.]]> Some Slogans For the Movement Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:20:05 -0600 oppositefear 232@/forum/discussions "democracy over plutocracy"
"peace over profit"
"love before lust"
"sustainability over profitability"]]>
"Think globally, Occupy locally!" Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:39:17 -0600 skinny 940@/forum/discussions &]]> Many New Slogans Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:37:17 -0600 dealdoctor 724@/forum/discussions It’s Our Demand and Our Conviction

Not the Democrats and Not Republicans
We-The People Are All United Again

It’s Our Treasury It’s Our Money
It Bailed Out The Banks and That’s Not Funny

Banks and Utilities Must Be Public
When They Are Not It Kills The Republic

Bankers Bought Our Democracy
Calling It Democratic Now is Hypocrisy

Not Capitalism against Socialism
But the 1% against Humanism

The 99% Is Too Big To Fail
We’re Free People And We’re Not For Sale

Bankers and Corporations Buying Our Nation
America’s People Poor as Haitians

Not Capitalism or Not Socialism
What We Demand is Humanism

Big Money and Politicians in Bed
Killing Democracy- Killing It Dead

We’re All Living On Banker Plantation
It Doesn’t Feels Like A Free Nation

Not Just Red-Not Just Blue
Unite All Three-Red White and Blue

Big Corporations Have No Humanity
It’s Time To March and Shout Profanity

The Wage Slavery As An Institution
Is One More Kind of Prostitution

Renting People -Working For Money
Is Prostitution And It Ain’t Funny

Corporations Have No Heart
About Money Right From The Start

Care About The Other Person
Or Everything Here Will Only Worsen

When We Forget Our Humanity
We Loose Our Common Unity

All About Money All About Wealth
Love Of Money Kills The Human Self

It’s All About Human Dignity
Wage Slaves Just Want To Be Free

Wage Slavery Is Slavery Still
Human Dignity is What It Kills

Rich People Rent Workers As Slaves
That’s Not Freedom and It’s Not Brave

Power In The Hands of a Few
Enslaves Us All-- It Just Won’t Do

Put Power In the Hands of The Many
And Our Children Won’t Get Too Skinny

If You Rent Out Your Soul
Your Humanity’s No Longer Whole

Renting People To Work For Dollars
Makes Americans Live In Squalor

Liberty Needs A Caring Heart
Join Us Now It’s The Start

We are the 99%
We can’t be bought
And we are not for rent

This is our land and we all own it
Give it back now or you’ve really blown it

Top Down Power Is Corrupt
Power Should Be The From Bottom Up

We The People Have the Power
Now ‘s The Time Now’s The Hour

American Liberty Must Have A Heart
Americans for Americans is the Start

Too many to fool Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:35:04 -0600 rebe 854@/forum/discussions
Too many to fool - Citizens whose government had to bail them.]]>
The needs of the few are the needs of the many Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:02:53 -0600 Nobody_Important 877@/forum/discussions
The "many" consist of the "few".

Nobody Important]]>
a legend in his place Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:53:54 -0600 2one4one 840@/forum/discussions last year I read that 1 man made 1 billion dollars. What I’ve never understood was why is talking about money tacky. Then I understand the more money you had the less tacky it got. Now a days it seems as though the world is dreary and the only rememberance of the “american dream” are when national momuments are torn down. We feed on the nostalgia of black and white photos and whatever “kick” will get you to your next high. Propolfol, viagra, bankruptcy laws, credit card debt, immagration, ethnic cleasing, oil spills. It seems the very ground we walk on is demanding answers. How far have we come that a billion dollars does not solve problems but creates them? 1 billion dollars.. Roll that number in your head. If money is a zero sum game, are we the ones playing this game wrong?
America it self was founded on some shaky terms. The idea of slavery pulls on the same strings as the holocaust but why can’t both numbers be found?
We are no longer producing life, but are thrown into the idea that life is but a dream. That the walls are built this high for a reason. That the world is shaped by the arms of god to bring you back to him. The seperation and the church and state? The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was that he doesnt exsist.
If the equvaliancy of life on this earth and never being part of life is beyond our comprehension should we not see death in the same light? That death is not to be worried about for life has captured us to show us who we are. Are we mistakes or are does not life bring with it spirit and conviction. The human soul must be a god unto itself. For it can end like that or it can keep us safe for a dream that does not need us. We have been condition to fear the outdoors. To distrust the skies and never to question why we feel high when walking into Wunceler. The powers that be have seem to understand this sweeping arm of life and want to continue feeding the machine. The machine has a name though, 50 million dollar houses, and AIDS, yachts and junkbonds, meth and nyquil. They just package it so you have to have it. They are good at dividing people then trying to compartmentalize them, 1 country, 50 states, divided them up. Red and blue, donkeys and elephants, puerto rico, hawaii, the domican rebublic, the hamptons. Conferates and jackie chan. And once they have you peering outside your window, they sew it back up. You are an american you are privelged and wanted. You are the few who have access to “our dream”. If america is playing a game, should we not know the rules? Should we not understand the blueprints, should we not know what piece were playing? Underneath soap operas and the super bowl, underneath pepsi and mcdonalds underneath the very seal we put up shouldn’t the ulimate goal be for a united front? This pill we have been force fed is becoming more apperant as they are seeping into are the necessities of life. Food, clothing, shelter.

Listeria outbreaks, nike factories in vietnam, the “housing market.
We sit and watch the news as we are fed punchline after punchline of what “is happening”. So we watch the news and everytime they say outbreak, civil war, missing girl, border patrol, seized and returned, cymbalta, injury attorneys, the lotto, the “return on investment”, we inject ourselves with posioned privelege. They pummel you till you nod your head and continue with your day. They call it honesty with people who look like you and people you wish you looked like. What is happening is the pawn is being pushed forward to occupy more space. They build a 2nd story and tell you its full. Then they build a new building and say this is paradise. Meanwhile they reinject the media to remind you that it could be worse. You could have been in a tornado. You could live next to the gulf, you could get shot if you walk into the wrong neighborhood. So hurry and take your seat cause there are those who would kill to have it. So we push, 9-5, work weekends and overtime. We keep our heads down because the top of our heads is the easiest way through. Button ups and ties, blouses and skirts. Che vergara and hitler. You are the sweeping arm of life you are an american making the world a better place. And when you have paid the dues of living life, your dreams and ours will be one in the same.
What right do they have to partake in your dream? How can they even understand your dream?
My dream does not contain pesticides and mad cow disease. Brats and waterparks, my dreams don’t contain high fructose corn syrup and plastic waterbottles. My dream does not have walgreens and black history month. The very audacity to say “your dream” should be grounds for a smack.
For in my dreams none of this exists. You and your 15% CDs and your .312 percent ERA don’t exist. You and my dreams have nothing in common so why should we be friends?
Cause we got health insurance and a 401k. We got company cars and assigned parking. We have happy hour and office parties. We are the walkway into comfort and serenity. But most importantly if your not with us you are against us. So walk the plank or grab an oar cause we don’t make the rules we just play the game. Sounds familar doesn’t. No harm no foul. Out of sight out of mind.

Really great speech Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:22:55 -0600 Yasmine 786@/forum/discussions
They do so by systematically eliminating competi­tion, by institutionally minimizing true opportunity, and by collectively controlling the flow and the growth of wealth.

This they accomplish through all manner of devices, from unfair labor practices which exploit the masses of the world’s poor to good-old-boy network competitive practices which minimize (and all but destroy) a new­comer’s chances of entering the Inner Circle of the successful.

They then seek to control public policy and govern­mental programs around the world to further ensure that the masses of people remain regulated, controlled, and subservient.

In most cases it isn’t rich individuals who do it; it’s the social systems and institutions they represent. Those systems and institutions were created by the rich and powerful—and it is the rich and powerful who continue to support them.

By standing behind such social systems and institu­tions, individuals can wash their hands of any personal responsibility for the conditions which oppress the masses while favoring the rich and powerful.

The point is that it is the rich and powerful who support such social structures and staunchly resist any real effort to change them. They stand against any political or economic approach which seeks to provide true opportunity and genuine dignity to all people.

Most of the rich and powerful, taken individually, are certainly nice enough people, with as much compassion and sympathy as anyone. But mention a concept as threatening to them as yearly income limits (even ridicu­lously high limits, such as $25 million annually), and they start whining about usurpation of individual rights, ero­sion of the “American way,” and “lost incentives.”

Yet what about the right of all people to live in minimally decent surroundings, with enough food to keep from starving, enough clothing to stay warm? What about the right of people everywhere to have adequate health care—the right not to have to suffer or die from relatively minor medical complications which those with money overcome with the snap of a finger?

The resources of your planet—including the fruits of the labors of the masses of the indescribably poor who are continually and systematically exploited—belong to all the world’s people, not just those who are rich and powerful enough to do the exploiting.

And here is how the exploitation works: Your rich industrialists go into a country or an area where there is no work at all, where the people are destitute, where there is abject poverty. The rich set up a factory there, offering those poor people jobs—sometimes 10-, 12-, and 14-hour-a-day jobs—at substandard, if not to say subhuman, wages. Not enough, mind you, to allow those workers to escape their rat-infested villages, but just enough to let them live that way, as opposed to having no food or shelter at all.

And when they are called on it, these capitalists say, “Hey, they’ve got it better than before, don’t they? We’ve improved their lot! The people are taking the jobs, aren’t they? Why, we’ve brought them opportu­nity! And we’re taking all the risk!”

Yet how much risk is there in paying people 75 cents an hour to manufacture sneakers which are going to sell for $125 a pair?

Is this risk-taking or exploitation, pure and simple?

Such a system of rank obscenity could exist only in a world motivated by greed, where profit margin, not human dignity, is the first consideration.

Those who say that “relative to the standards in their society, those peasants are doing wonderfully!” are hypocrites of the first order. They would throw a drown­ing man a rope, but refuse to pull him to shore. Then they would brag that a rope is better than a rock.

Rather than raising the people to true dignity, these “haves” give the world’s “have-nots” just enough to make them dependent—but not enough to ever make them truly powerful. For people of true economic power have the ability to then impact, and not merely be subject to, “the system.” And that’s the last thing the creators of the system want!

So the conspiracy continues. And for most of the rich and powerful it is not a conspiracy of action, but a conspiracy of silence.

So go now—go your way—and by all means say nothing about the obscenity of a socioeconomic system which rewards a corporate executive with a 70-million-dollar bonus for increasing sales of a soft drink, while 70 million people can’t afford the luxury of drinking the stuff—much less eating enough to stay healthy.

Don’t see the obscenity of it. Call this the world’s Free Market Economy, and tell everyone how proud you are of it.

Yet it is written:

If thou wilt be perfect,

go and sell what thou hast, and give to the poor,

and thou shalt have treasure in heaven.

But when the young man heard this, he went away,


for he had great possessions."

Revealing Quotes From Those Who Know Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:47:45 -0600 MundusVultDecipi 763@/forum/discussions
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." - U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins) Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)

"The real menace to our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over the city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen. At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the International bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually runs the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties. It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for public protection" - John Hylan, 1922, Mayor of New York (1918-1925)

"We have in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board... this evil institution has impoverished... the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the money vultures who control it." - Rep. Louis T. McFadden (R-PA) 1932

"Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.
"When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers.
"These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance.
"It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished."
- Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, addressing the United States Bankers' Association, NYC 1924
NB: This quotation was reprinted in the Idaho Leader, USA, on 26th August 1924, and has been read into the Australian Federal Hansard twice: by John Evans MP, in 1926, and by MD Cowan MP, in the session of 1930-31.

"With the creation of the new global economy comes the demand for a fundamental re-alignment of policy-making power, away from national governments to some as yet undefined institutional order where the traditional nation-state plays a subordinate role."
- "The World Economy: The search for mechanism of transition", National Australia Bank Share-holder's Review, October 1986

"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented ... Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with a flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again ... if you want to continue to be slaves of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, Head Of The Bank of England, 1781

"The [Council on Foreign Relations] grew out of the Inquiry, a secretive group of well-educated bankers and lawyers who accompanied Woodrow Wilson to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919. The council saw [as] its mandate the calling of signals from the sidelines.... [T]he [elites] govern, while the lowly men of elective office...dirty their hands with politics... The international institutions conceived in 1945 - the UN, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund - were anticipated in studies done at the council." - New York Magazine, Oct. 7, 1996

"[Council on Foreign Relations displays] all the earmarks of a conspiracy - a few hundred Wall Street Bankers, lawyers, foundation executives and businessmen, meeting to arrange the deals far from the prying eye of the public and their elected officials." - [Clinton's CIA nominee] Anthony Lake & Leslie Gelb Our Own Worst Enemy

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." - Franklin D. Roosevelt (in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House)

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. - Thomas Jefferson

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them of the past 49 years, they would move on Washington, they would not wait for an election… It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States." - Senator George Malone of Nevada, 1957, while speaking of the Federal Reserve

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." - James Madison, fourth President of the United States (1809–1817)

"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world... no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." - Pres. Woodrow Wilson (These statements were made after his realization that the signing of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was the worst decision he ever made)

"I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men." - Woodrow Wilson

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States... they will rule the future." - Barry Goldwater, U.S Senator 1964

"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!" - Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Benjamin Disraeli, 1st British Prime Minister

"The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts." - Henry Ford, Industry Giant

"You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning." - President Andrew Jackson, 1834 speaking to bankers

"Right after the Civil War there was considerable talk about reviving Lincoln's brief experimentation with the Constitutional monetary system. Had not the European money-trust intervened, it would have no doubt become an established institutional." - Willard Cleon Skousen (1913 - 2006, conservative author, political commentator, and academic)

"The financial system... has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board administers the finance system by authority of... a purely profiteering group. The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of the other people's money." - Rep. Charles A. Lindberg (R-MN)

"These men are not incompetent or stupid. They are crafty and brilliant… If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favour." - James Forrestal, U.S. Secretary of Defence

"Those not favourable to the money trust could be squeezed out of business and the people frightened into demanding changes in the banking and currency laws which the Money Trust would frame" - Rep. Charles A. Lindberg (R-MN), In response to the scam that was the depression of 1907 and how it fooled everyone into embracing the Federal Reserve as a good idea.

"I went to America in the winter of 1872-73, authorized to secure, if I could, the passage of a bill demonetizing silver. It was in the interest of those I represented - the governors of the Bank of England - to have it done. By 1873, gold coins were the only form of coin money." - Ernest Seyd (Representative of International Bankers)

"The division of the United States into federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War by the high financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained as one block, and as one nation, would attain economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world" - Otto von Bismark (soon to be chancellor of Germany, watching the events of the Civil War)

"The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy." - Abraham Lincoln

"My agency in promoting the passage of the National Banking Act was the greatest financial mistake in my life. It has built up a monopoly which affects every interest in the country" - Salmon P. Chase (Lincoln's former secretary of Treasury just before Lincoln's death regretting past decisions)

"Actually it was the calculated shearing of the public by the World-Money powers triggered by the planned sudden shortage of call money in the New York Money Market" (That triggered the collapse of the stock market in '29) "For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn't... Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations - One World Money Group." "The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power." "The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve bank." - Curtis Dall, FDR's Son-in-law (These are quotes from his book - FDR: My Exploited Father-in-law)

"If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessity to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe." - Times of London

"It is not our own citizens only who are to receive the bounty of our government. More than 8 millions of the stock of this bank are held by foreigners… is there no danger to our liberty and independence in a bank that in its nature has so little to bind it to our country? Controlling our currency, receiving our public moneys, and holding thousands of our citizens in dependence… would be more formidable and dangerous than a military power of the enemy." - Andrew Jackson, Bank Veto Message, July 10, 1832

"If [government] would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favour alike on high and the low, the rich and poor, it would be an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide and unnecessary departure from these just principles." - Andrew Jackson (giving his reason for his veto rejecting the renewal of the charter of the 2nd Bank of the United States).

"The case for government by elites is irrefutable." - William Fulbright, U.S. Senator 1963

"The rich will strive to establish their dominion and enslave the rest. They always did. They always will... They will have the same effect here as elsewhere, if we do not, by (the power of government), keep them in their proper spheres." - Letter from Governor Morris to James Madison (1787)

"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution- taking from the federal government their power of borrowing." - Thomas Jefferson (as he watched the 1st Bank of the United States in action on U.S. economy)

"The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots... I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America, and use it systematically to corrupt modern civilization. They will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos in order that the earth should become their inheritance." - Otto von Bismark

"End Corporate Aristocracy" Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:22:27 -0600 altruismisdead 759@/forum/discussions Today's Financial Elite are no different than the Aristocratic Elite of Europe (Tudor, Windsor, etc..)
Meme Herman Abel Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:03:27 -0600 rebe 660@/forum/discussions
Turn it into a meme featuring his slain brother zombie:
Herman Abel tells Tea Party to blame Wall St, not the Poor

We Need to Change Their Perspective Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:28:10 -0600 bzchaet 714@/forum/discussions
So here we are. Millions of fingers point in all directions, billions around the world remain confused, and not only do we not have an answer but we aren't exactly sure what the question is. Let us as Americans search long and hard for the questions so that we know exactly what answers we will be demanding. I implore each and every American to first look in the mirror and ensure that you are ready to bring your competitive spirit to the system's front door because I can guarantee, whether we are willing to admit or not, that we will be facing nothing but winners who won't accept defeat easily. Be willing to admit that we as the American public have made critical errors which have left us open for attack from predators but at the same time that we will be attacked no longer. Be willing to make sacrifices and concessions by adjusting what you perceive to be the American dream so that future generations may have the same opportunity that we've been given by previous generations. Be willing to be counted on in our time of need by your fellow Americans. Just keep in mind that it is ok to lose. Remember that the greatest winners in history have lost over and over. Remember that the more we lose, the sweeter it will taste when our unstoppable force pushes their immovable object out of the way. Finally, the most important thing to remember is that as long as we vow to never stop fighting...we will never truly lose. This country was founded by the people and it isn't a long shot nor selfish nor crazy to demand that the power returns to it's rightful owner.]]>
Occupiechart Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:27:19 -0600 rebe 686@/forum/discussions A Message to the 1% Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:05:32 -0600 ialdabaoth 672@/forum/discussions - Jesus of Nazareth

“With great power, comes great responsibility.”
- Ben Parker

This is America, the land of opportunity. We don’t begrudge you your wealth. You got where you are following the great American Dream. That’s a good thing. What we begrudge you isn’t even the power that comes with your wealth; we’re angry at what you’re doing with it.

When Ford Motor company decided to shave off a few cents on the Ford Pinto and people burned to death driving the accursed thing, we said “oh, well; a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely Ford Motor company can’t be held accountable for the actions of a few bean-counters.”

When DeBeers paid African warlords to kill off entire tribes to protect their diamond mines, we said “oh, well; a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely DeBeers can’t be held accountable for the actions of a few rogue security guards.”

When Union Carbide killed a bunch of Indian villagers with a little gas leak, we said “oh, well; a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely Union Carbide can’t be held accountable for the actions of a few plant managers.”

When Exxon dumped millions of tons of crude oil onto the Alaskan shore, destroying an entire ecosystem, we said “oh, well; a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely Exxon can’t be held accountable for the actions of a single drunk captain.”

When Enron shuffled around power on the California grid, and Arthur Anderson shuffled around assets on the accounting sheets, to soak taxpayers and shareholders out of billions of dollars, we said “oh, well, a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely the Forbes Fortune 500 list can’t be held accountable for the actions of a few corrupt corporate executives.”

When British Petroleum blew up an oil rig and wiped out a significant chunk of the Gulf of Mexico’s ecosystem, we said, “oh, well, a few bad apples don’t spoil the bunch. Surely the oil companies can’t be held accountable for the actions of a few corner-cutting engineers.”

When Haliburton executives in eastern Europe traded eleven and twelve year old sex slaves, we said, “wait a minute, what?”

When the entire US housing market collapsed, and the banks demanded a $700 billion hand-out, then turned around and began foreclosing on houses they didn’t even own, we said “hold on a goddamn minute, here!”

And when Fox News... no, you know what? Never mind. I’m not even going to start.

The bunch is officially spoiled, and is threatening to take the entire goddamned barrel with it.

You want to understand why we’re mad? You know why we’re mad. You know exactly why we’re mad. You have not lived up to the responsibilities of your power. You shroud yourselves in ‘plausible deniability’ and ‘limited liability’, and meanwhile our children are sick, our brothers and sisters are abused, our air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, our politicians are bribed to smile at us and tell us that it’s our own damned fault, and our police are bribed into attacking us for daring to ask what the hell you’re playing at.

What the hell are you playing at?

At long last, sirs, have you no decency?

Because if you do - if you have one shred of simple human decency left - then stop using your billions of marketing dollars to tell us that it’s just the rain when you are almost literally pissing down our backs.

A generation ago, we might have said “stop mismanaging your power or we’ll have to take it away from you.” But we tried that, you got away with re-framing the debate, and now here we are.

The message is now “step away from the controls before you hurt anyone else.”

You are complicit in crimes against humanity. You can no longer feign ignorance of this. What does it profit you to control the whole world, and lose your soul?

And before your political marketing teams jump in shouting “socialism!” and “anarchy”, understand that we are not talking about your wealth, only your power.

We are currently willing to sit down and negotiate a peaceful redistribution of that power back to the people that this democratic republic still claims to serve. Our willingness to negotiate is a sign of our generosity. Do not abuse it.]]>
Occupy For Good Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:30:12 -0600 whit537 649@/forum/discussions


Coming to your city
Coming to your town
Occupation's starting
Never slowing down

Occupy the country
Occupy the coast
Occupy your heart
Where it matters most

Occupy for good ...

Left and right
Come and see
About the occupation
We'll all have tea

Cops and hippies
You and me
Occupy together
We'll all be free

Occupy for good ...

Ain't no law
Ain't no talk
Like face to face
And walk the walk

Mister Banker
Change your heart
Mingle with the people
Let the occupation start!

Occupy for good ...]]>
GLOBAL ECONOMIC AWAKENING - Monetary interests have too much power! Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:38:43 -0600 EconomicAwakening 538@/forum/discussions Poetry Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:45:28 -0600 tcoffin 516@/forum/discussions
I can't see beyond the line society has drawn in the sand
to indicate how they would have me separated, them from you, mild to bland
though words are wind, just another plucked string in the band
one can't help but feel cut to the quick, but that's what they've planned
just remember a word whispered today, soon becomes another's demand

How far away from yourself can one drift?
how long can you sustain when all you have is THEIR gifts?
wouldn't you sooner die on your feet, then drown in "our" rift?
open your eyes, don't just take, look for more, seek, and sift

Here, I break the convention they gave me
to rhyme is to create prose, those words I can't be
I'd sooner speak from the mind, maybe even make others see
so thus I spurn their pentameter, I'll speak only in a flow that is free

Why allow all their bad dreams the power to pave our way?
why can't we speak, and write?
why can't we sing, and unite?
why can't one be all and nothing sure?
why can't we love the individual without the love of the more?

We have come to an understanding with our enemies
we sacrifice our dreams to fuel their machines
we wear suits and ties to our daily 8 hour funeral marches
for our wages borne of hopes and screams

How much must we wither our souls to sustain our shells?
how much deeper can we dig ourselves
enslaved to debt so we can compete with The Jones's?
while we morally bankrupt the future's we're forcing on our children

Why doesn't every 3rd man scream
for the lives that we've wasted and the lusts rotted to green?
Where is every mother who cares
ever brother not caught unawares?
ever Old Man not trapped in their snares?

I know, they are all caught in the "Rat Race"
aptly named from the powers that be, this is their honesty
we've handed the reins to gluttons, who aren't only evil
but sleeping at the wheel

and It's YOU who force me to steal
through your tax dollars, such a great "New Deal"

It's YOU that make me lie
so you can allow them a bigger piece of the pie

It's YOU that makes me kill
for I can't accept a life without free will

It's YOU that believes all their hot air
at the cost of liberty, and the pursuit of "fair"

It is also YOU that will never pay the ultimate fee
that debt, as all else will fall onto me

yet it's YOU who look at me with hostility
like I was born without nobility

and it's YOU who stare so intently
do you think the Idiot box is named accidently?

through your witless floundering, and mass media induced stupidity

You who are the bane of all that is me
whom I can't hurt, nor fault, but have to leave free
whom I can't deny, nor assault, cause that isn't PC
whom I can't leave, nor leave be,
while you live, and thrive, and consume all you see

You are the end of everything
and the beginning of nothing

you found a way, to force me to say;

I am you and you've become me
Song/Video For Consideration Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:16:36 -0600 melsar 514@/forum/discussions ]]> Occupy Sovereignty Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:01:56 -0600 Dran 492@/forum/discussions Who's the next Bernie? Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:25:48 -0600 rebe 476@/forum/discussions
Any proposals?]]>
Response to 53 percenters Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:35:38 -0600 JustinPerry 500@/forum/discussions

And here are some of my favorite slogans seen on signs:

- Want jobs? Bail out education

- Land of the Fees and Home of the Slaves

- "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you, then you win." - Ghandi

- Dear Wall Street: You took a lot now give a little!!

- If you aren't one of us, you will be soon

- The only minority destroying America is the top 1%

- 94% of winning candidates had more money than their opponent. Is this democracy?

- Just the beginning...

- "The power of the people is stronger than the people in power."]]>
de-Occupy the 1% Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:05:20 -0600 Dran 493@/forum/discussions 1% we forget, we forgive, we are not like you. Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:01:12 -0600 Dran 491@/forum/discussions 1% we are not here to reform you, but to reform ourselves as the true rulers of our planet. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:55:53 -0600 Dran 488@/forum/discussions We first Occupy streets, then we Occupy Mission Control of spaceship Earth. Exepct us. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:54:01 -0600 Dran 487@/forum/discussions Demanding is for children. We now take command of spaceship Earth. Join us or leave. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:52:25 -0600 Dran 486@/forum/discussions We are not here to make demands!We are here to Occupy our place as co-creators of a new civilization Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:50:08 -0600 Dran 485@/forum/discussions I propose one of our Anthem Songs be: "(I'm Not Your) Steppin Stone" Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:07:37 -0600 JanetteD 460@/forum/discussions - It's AWESOME! A great picture to go with it is their album cover from the Definitive Monkees. Search Google images or see:]]> #DontVoteForCorporateCandidates #DV4CC Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:00:35 -0600 sull 378@/forum/discussions
The irony in a campaign like #DV4CC is to leverage voter inactivity at the polls. In other words, people who support this message simply do nothing on election day. The goal would be to have record low voter turnout. That is UNLESS a new breed of candidates come forward (I wont name names as good examples to keep this idea balanced) who reject corporate influence. Then the mission is to get these candidates on the ballots and vote for them on election day. Disrupt the corporate political system by not playing the game. Let the Mass Occupy Movement give these corporate-free candidates a chance through the free and cheap accessible methods and technologies and side-step MSM filters.

Start with a hashtag trend by using something like #DV4CC and or #DontVoteForCorporateCandidates and go from there. And research other candidates, past and present, who have run campaigns without corporate funding.]]>
Accountability And Responsibility Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:36:27 -0600 JeremyTKaye 367@/forum/discussions
Responsibility and Accountability.

If you lost your job because of corporations outsourcing to foreign countries;

Responsibility and Accountability.

If your land, sea, and air are polluted becuase corporations make the regulations;

Responsibility and Accountability.

If you lost your home in the forcosure crisis becuase of how banks screwed you over;

Responsibility and Accountability.

If you went through college, can't find a job, and have tons of debt;

Responsibility and Accountability.

Who's responsible? Who's Accountable?

Those who run the system, those who make the rules. The government, big businesses, lobbiests, corporations, and whoever you believe keeps you from getting a fair chance at success. These are the 1% that we need to hold responsible and accountable for their actions.

It is up to us to take action and demand this from our leaders. The place is here, the time is now.

Spread the message, spread the phrase, overwhelm the media, so there is no question about what we want.

- Jeremy Kaye]]>
my thoughts on goals and slogans to bring about better quality of (financial) life for the 99% Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:29:51 -0600 Geo 239@/forum/discussions
****Avoid standard democrat or republican phrases or candidates names. It just subdivides the gathering. neither party is doing anything. both parties need to change and the 99% percent need to stick together long enough to change them and not be subdivided by those who control the status qou in the parties (they want you arguing so you remain no challenge tot hem).


Untaxed inheritance inhibits true competition and goes against ever free enterprise idea of reward those who earned it.

End unlimited Corporate lifespans. Corporations should be ended and their assets sold every 20 years to promote competition and decrease monopolies.

Since the "job creators" aren't "job creating" can we tax them again now?

Increase taxes on those who decrease American jobs.

Big Oil & Big Banks = BIGGER TROUBLE. End the subsidies and break them up!

Breaking up monopolies is the American way. Competition works.

"Free" trade costs you plenty including your first world wage job and quality of life. Reimpose import duties on products from low wage producers.

"Free" Trade really just means "free to exploit people worldwide"

End "free" trade. Reimpose imports duties on low wage producers.

Bigger financial Fraud is still fraud. Punish it by TAKING BACK THE MONEY.

The crimes weren't punished. go back and get theirs names and get their money.

It time to make a list of those who are committing financial fraud.

Blaming the "corporation" is like blaming the robber's mask for the robbery. Name the board of directors and controlling shareholders and GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

Fines for financial crimes should be more than the profit!

We don't JUST need jobs. We need quality of life giving jobs.

Slaves had "jobs". We need HIGH PAYING jobs.

Your voting machines have proven records of faking votes. Did you know? Support open voting machines BEFORE 2012 primaries.

Automation and robotics will build our future but make sure we ALL get the benefits!

Robots WILL eventually do your job. The only question left is will you establish wealth sharing rules so get the benefit or allow yourself to have no future income and no way to compete with a robot for the job.

No one got rich alone. They used public roads services and people to do it. They need to pay back.

Free Trade isn't free. It costs you your standard of living. Demand import duties on cheap labor products.

Demand fair open media if it uses public airwaves. That's the law.

If candidates for office had free press then there would be no power in money in politics.

Run for office FAST before a hack does it for you.

Fairer taxes and higher minimum wages cured the last depression and it will do it again.

Public health care should be a choice. Give yourself the choice.

Post WW2 England started universal health care when broke and bombed out. It revived their economy. What's our excuse?

Reverse Corporate personhood!

Corporations should pay taxes like you do.

Stop the sale of public assets to private corporations.

Reverse the sale of public assets to private companies.

Impeach crooked Supreme Court justices on the take.

Revoke IRS tax exempt status of "charity" foundations and institutions which promote nothing but concentration of wealth.

Join Us for your future! Bring sandwiches!
(nice fun invites to passerbys that show you are normal and it might be fun to join you make a big difference. If the middle class doesn't support the gatherings they won't be effective.)

end employment non compete agreements - pay people if you want them not to compete with you. A free workforce promotes fair competition.

Make patents applications free for individuals: they are the individual's most important protection against idea theft by unscrupulous businesses.

End secret lawsuit settlements in cases of health threatening issues. The constitution says PUBLIC TRIALS.

the policies of the new deal quickly reversed the loss of the middle class . the economy bounced back long before World War 2.
It will work again.
Raise minimum wage to a living wage. Exclude the cost of living from taxable income - (restore the true personal exemption which should now be around $25,000) Prohibit companies form extending hours to force them to hir emore people. tax excessive income and inheritance. restore regulations against fraudulent practices and mixing banking and speculation.

Today we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. fix it.

Social democracy IS democracy.

The constitution says representative republic. Capitalism is never mentioned.

You must stop the crooked businesses to allow the honest businesses to compete.